Mr ABBOTT (Warringah—Prime Minister) (14:57): The Labor Party well and truly placed on our national agenda the whole idea of a Medicare co-payment. Bob Hawke, the member for Lingiari, the member for Werriwa, the member for Jagajaga, Labor's shadow Assistant Treasurer, skulking and cowering down there on the outer front bench— Mr Shorten: Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order. The point of order is on relevance. I was not asking about anyone else. I was not even asking about when Arthur Phillip did it. The SPEAKER: As I said, it was more like a statement than a question. However, the Prime Minister has the call for a very broad statement. Mr ABBOTT: Labor's shadow Assistant Treasurer has been speaking and publishing for years on this very point—'There's a better way of operating a health system.' Opposition members interjecting— Mr ABBOTT: You cannot disown your clear words.