Ms LEY (Farrer—Assistant Minister for Education) (14:52): I cannot believe that the shadow minister for education is asking me this question today, because the measures we have taken, regarding making payments to families sustainable, are in part measures that were introduced by the Labor Party. Although the shadow minister in the House walked away from her responsibilities, Labor in the Senate recognised that yes, half of this bill belonged to them. Ms Kate Ellis: There is only one bill. It is the childcare benefit cuts. The SPEAKER: The member has asked her question and will desist. Ms LEY: Remember—$106 million of childcare rebate, a payment to families, frozen for six years by the Labor Party— Ms Kate Ellis: You're cutting $230 billion. The SPEAKER: This is question time, not argument time. Ms LEY: but not enacted in legislation, so that when we came into government— Ms Kate Ellis: You are cutting $230 million. The SPEAKER: The member for Adelaide will desist! Ms LEY: In the fig leaf of economic credibility that the member for Lilley was trying to cover himself with so his last budget did not look quite as awful as it actually was, these savings were announced but never legislated. So we did that. The Labor Party is also walking away from its responsibilities to children and families. We initiated a Productivity Commission inquiry, which is due to report in July in draft form— Ms Kate Ellis: Madam Speaker— The SPEAKER: This answer is relevant. If the member is proposing to take a point of order on relevance, there is no point of order. Ms Kate Ellis: Madam Speaker, I was pointing out that this is about the cuts to the childcare benefit that this minister has before this parliament right now. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Resume your seat. Ms LEY: There are no cuts. There is a pausing of the threshold for just three years. The amount of childcare benefit will continue to be indexed on 1 July. The dollar amount of payment will continue to increase. Ms Kate Ellis: That is not what this says. The SPEAKER: If the member for Adelaide wants an early mark, I can oblige. The member for Adelaide then left the chamber. Ms LEY: There is a pause in the threshold for three years. Why are we doing that? Why are we forced to do that? As I said, it does give us no pleasure. We are forced to do that because of the unsustainable budget position we inherited from the Labor Party. Before the member for Adelaide interrupted, I was pointing out that the Productivity Commission review that points the way to a better future, to a more sustainable future for families, which brings down its draft report next month, was not supported by Labor, was never endorsed by Labor. Labor took no interest in finding policy solutions for the future. In fact, under Labor childcare costs went up 53 per cent. You might say that there are subsidies to assist—and yes, there are—but in the last four years of Labor childcare out-of-pocket costs went up 40 per cent, so families were paying 40 per cent more in the last four years of the Labor government. It is a shameful legacy that we have inherited—one we are managing, fixing and sorting out.