Mr DUTTON (Dickson—Minister for Health and Minister for Sport) (14:18): We know that the Labor Party is not too good with numbers but they surely realised when they imposed the only economy-wide carbon tax in the world that it would apply to health services. Surely they realised that the hospitals, the pharmacists, the dental practices, GP practices around the country— Ms King: You are cutting $50 billion out of hospitals. The SPEAKER: The member for Ballarat will desist. Mr DUTTON: every time they use energy. It is a cost that they cannot absorb, that they must pass on to consumers. What does it mean? It means that they are taking away the capacity to put more into frontline services. We know that Treasury analysis in New South Wales says that Labor's carbon tax would impose $26.5 million on to the New South Wales health system. Ms Collins interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Franklin will desist. Ms Plibersek interjecting— The SPEAKER: And the member for Sydney will desist. Mr DUTTON: The amazing thing is that Labor just does not get it. Even today, they do not realise that hospitals in other countries do not face this carbon tax. This carbon tax takes the capacity away to deliver more surgery. Mr Conroy interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Charlton will remove himself under standing order 94(a). The member for Charlton then left the chamber. Mr DUTTON: It makes it harder for doctors to see those patients. It makes it harder for pharmacists to provide those services because they are paying the carbon tax implemented by the Labor Party every time they flick on the switch or pay for goods that are coming into their practice. Ms Collins interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Franklin is warned. Mr DUTTON: We know that analysis in Victoria shows that each and every year the carbon tax will cost $13.5 million as it applies to electricity and gas— Ms Collins interjecting— The SPEAKER: I remind the member for Franklin she is warned. One more from her and she will leave. Mr DUTTON: in their hospitals and across their health system and it grows each and every year. It made me think about the scene from Yes Minister where they talk about the hospital being perfect except for the fact that it has got patients in it. The problem is that our hospitals do have patients in them. And we need to keep the lights on, we need to make sure that the operating theatres continue and we need to make sure that the intensive care units keep operating. Mr Burke interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Watson will desist. Mr DUTTON: We cannot turn off the power. I am not sure if this is some sort of revelation to the Labor Party but we cannot turn the power off. They have to pay the carbon tax. Every time they use gas or electricity in these public hospitals, they are paying the carbon tax. My advice to Labor premiers and to the Territory chief ministers is that they get on the phone to this Leader of the Opposition because Bill Shorten is the only person who is standing in the way of the abolition of the carbon tax. And the Leader of the Opposition needs to get out of the way and get this carbon tax off the back of all Australians.