Senator SHOEBRIDGE (New South Wales) (14:30): Minister, I know you don't want to talk about Donald Trump. I know you don't want to talk about Benjamin Netanyahu. But the question the Australian public are asking is: What is the red line? What do the US and Israel have to do before Australia opposes Trump's and Netanyahu's war mongering? How many more hospitals have to be bombed? How many more schools have to be destroyed before Labor takes a stand for peace and international law? Senator Ciccone: What about the tens of thousands of people who have died? The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Ciccone. Senator Ciccone interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Ciccone. Senator Ciccone interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Ciccone, I called you three times—three times—and you completely ignored me.