Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:40): Senator, you know that that statistic isn't true. The reality is you're comparing all houses built, including private construction, with what the government is contributing to. The people who wrote that question don't want to compare what your government supported with what ours supports, because the coalition government wasn't interested in supporting more housing. Let's be clear. What we have been very clear about is that we are delivering homes, building more homes and making it easier for first home buyers. We are cutting red tape, we are making it easier for builders to get on with the job, we are delivering social and affordable homes and we are delivering homes for first— Senator Ruston: Are you? You're talking about it. The PRESIDENT: Senator Ruston, even though they are quiet interjections, I can still hear them and so can the minister. Senator WONG: We know that those opposite had a decade in office and they built 373 social and affordable homes. We have over 5,000 that have been completed under Commonwealth programs. (Time expired)