Senator GALLAGHER (Australian Capital Territory—Minister for Finance, Minister for the Public Service, Minister for Women, Minister for Government Services and Manager of Government Business in the Senate) (14:12): I thank the senator for the question. I did listen very closely to Senator Ayres's excellent responses to questions that he received yesterday. We are disappointed not to be bringing the world to Adelaide, but we think the agreement reached was a sensible one and one that reflects the importance of bringing the world's leaders to the Pacific so that they can see firsthand what some of their Pacific island leaders and communities are so concerned about in their response to climate change. Senator Ruston: Are you going to answer the question at all? Senator GALLAGHER: Thank you, Senator Ruston. I don't need your instruction about how to answer a question. The question was on COP, and I am answering. I am answering and I am relevant to COP. Australia, in partnership with the Pacific, will set the agenda for and preside over a special pre-COP for leaders and others in the Pacific in 2026, which, as I said, will give the world an opportunity to see the Pacific climate impacts and solutions firsthand, and an important part of our advocacy around COP31 was our advocacy on— The PRESIDENT: Minister, please resume your seat. Senator Chandler? Senator Chandler: President, the minister has been attempting to answer for more than a minute and she is going nowhere near the question. The point of order is on direct relevance. My question was: how much will the pre-COP cost Australian taxpayers? The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Chandler. You also referred to questions asked of Minister Ayres yesterday, so I think the minister is being relevant, and I will continue to listen carefully to her responses. Senator GALLAGHER: I'm unsurprised that this is the new line of attack on climate from the opposition, that— Senator Ruston: No, it's not. Just answer the question. Senator GALLAGHER: Well, we understand— Senator Ruston interjecting— Senator GALLAGHER: Well, pretend you are doing something else, Senator Ruston, if it helps you sleep at night. I'm sure you argued very strongly for net zero! 'Don't walk away'! We saw the result of that. We have never seen a quieter Senator Bragg than we have seen in the last sitting week. Apparently, he got everything he wanted! We feel for you. In relation to costs, they will be determined in the usual way, as you would expect, just as costs of climate through our disaster relief fund and all the resources we put into that are dealt with— (Time expired.) The PRESIDENT: Senator Chandler, first supplementary?