Senator McDONALD (Queensland—Deputy Leader of the Nationals in the Senate) (14:54): Minister, the Albanese government has raised public interest immunity claims in relation to 54 per cent of all orders that have been partially or not complied with in this parliament, with 'cabinet deliberations' being claimed in 62 per cent of those cases. In 2020, you said: The government can't simply make that claim, because the document was walked through a cabinet room or has the word 'cabinet' on it. Do you still agree with that statement?