Senator WALSH (Victoria—Minister for Early Childhood Education and Minister for Youth) (14:59): Thank you, Senator Colbeck. Well, our government's new Commonwealth prac payment started on 1 July 2025, and it will support around 68,000 eligible higher education students to complete their practical training each year. It will support a whole lot more students than how many you wanted it to support, which was zero. The PRESIDENT: Minister Walsh, please resume your seat. Senator Colbeck? Senator Colbeck: A point of order on direct relevance: my question was not how many students do qualify. How many students don't qualify? The PRESIDENT: The minister is being relevant to the question. Minister Walsh? Okay, second supplementary, Senator Colbeck?