Senator AYRES (New South Wales—Minister for Industry and Innovation and Minister for Science) (14:51): No. You know, it's sort of like the old FSB propaganda operation—the misdirection operation. That's what happened. Senator Canavan, you are the captain of the silly billies, he is the deputy of the silly billies— The PRESIDENT: Minister Ayres, withdraw that comment. Senator AYRES: I withdraw all of it. Of course people like Ms McIntyre, and other people in the farming community, should be consulted; of course they should be engaged with. What they don't need is the silly billies from the Liberal and National parties campaigning against renewable developments hundreds of kilometres away from where they live because they are picking up the extremist politics from offshore, delivered by propaganda outfits that are not Australian and not acting in the Australian national interest, and creating fear and apprehension in their own partisan interests. (Time expired)