Senator McALLISTER (New South Wales—Minister for the National Disability Insurance Scheme) (14:10): Senators will understand that we consulted widely before deciding to make a brief deferral of the commencement of this important reform, and that is so that the sector can get ready. I understand the interest of— The PRESIDENT: Minister, please resume your seat. Senator Ruston? Senator Ruston: On a point of order on direct relevance: I was not asking the minister about the Aged Care Act; I was asking her about homecare packages. The PRESIDENT: Senator Ruston, the minister is being relevant to your question. Minister McAllister, please continue. Senator McALLISTER: As Senator Ruston will know, because it has been canvassed publicly, and I imagine it was canvassed on Friday as well, each and every week new packages are released. Senator Ruston: On a point of order, in terms of misleading the Senate: the senator should know that what she just said is not correct. The PRESIDENT: Senator Ruston, that is not a point of order. I'm going to call the minister again— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senators, I am in charge of the Senate. I have said that that was out of order, and I will call the minister back to continue her answer. Senator McALLISTER: As I've indicated here previously, each and every week packages are released; further packages are released. I understand the point Senator Ruston is making, and she sought to draw this out on Friday. The important thing here is that, whether it is a new package or a redistributed package, it is an older Australian coming off the waiting list and getting the care that they need. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Ruston, second supplementary.