Senator GALLAGHER (Australian Capital Territory—Minister for Finance, Minister for the Public Service, Minister for Women, Minister for Government Services and Manager of Government Business in the Senate) (14:29): I thank Senator Mulholland for asking a question about the economic reform round table. There were a number of outcomes, a number of directions, looking at how we can work together. This is something those opposite don't understand. They find it quite an unusual concept that you would bring together leaders from business, union leaders and community sector leaders in one room and talk to them about some of the challenges that are going on. Opposition senators interjecting— Senator GALLAGHER: We know that's a foreign concept for you, who only like to talk in a closed room to people that agree with you about what you think. That is your approach to reform. Our approach is to pull together people to represent different sectors and to come out with consensus, where we can, on dealing with some of the challenges, whether it be in housing, technology, regulation or any of those areas that are important to the Australian economy but also important to the Australian people. The PRESIDENT: Senator Mulholland, second supplementary?