Senator AYRES (New South Wales—Minister for Industry and Innovation and Minister for Science) (14:59): I'm very grateful to Senator Sheldon for that question, although I've been hoping for the whole fortnight that Senator Sharma would ask me the question that he just directed towards Senator Gallagher, because, I have to say, his opinion piece in the Financial Review— The PRESIDENT: Senator Ruston, a point of order? Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! I'm waiting. Order! Senator Ruston: A point of order on relevance—I think the minister perhaps should be brought back to the question. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Ruston. Minister Ayres, I am going to direct you back to the question. Senator AYRES: It was just one little joke! I really am grateful for this question, though. We have been absolutely focused as a government on delivering new homes and the homes that Australians need—28,000 homes under construction or in planning now. That contrasts with what happened under the previous government, under their program—373 homes over a decade. The truth is that Australians know, when they build a home, it takes time to build a home. You've got to work your way through it. Do you know who agrees with us about housing supply? Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Minister Ayres, please resume your seat. Those on my left might find this amusing; I do not. It is my job to keep order in this chamber, and you are making it incredibly difficult. If you can't sit in silence, leave the chamber. Minister Ayres. Senator AYRES: Do you know who agrees with us? It's Senator Bragg, whom Senator Cash referred to yesterday as 'Braggie'! I don't know whether it's Braggie with an i-e or Braggy with a y at the end. Opposition senators interjecting— Senator Ruston: On a point of order, you'd think the minister might be able to answer— The PRESIDENT: Just get to the point of order, Senator Ruston. Senator Ruston: his own dixer. He's not being relevant to his own question. The PRESIDENT: Senator Ruston, there is an incredible amount of comment from the opposition side, and, as you are well aware, the minister can take those comments. I would like the question to be answered. I'm sure you would as well. That requires all of you on the opposition benches not to interject. Minister Ayres. Senator AYRES: He said: We need to find a way to unlock supply, otherwise we're going to make the problem worse. That was his view a few months ago—old Braggie. We don't call him Braggie over here. The PRESIDENT: Senator Ayres— Senator AYRES: We call him 'Home Blokka'. That's what this guy is all about. The PRESIDENT: Senator Ayres! Senator AYRES: That's b-l-o-k-k-a—Home Blokka! The PRESIDENT: Senator Ayres, I am going to ask you to withdraw. Senator AYRES: I withdraw. The PRESIDENT: Please continue. Senator AYRES: Why are we working so hard with the states, with developers, with local government and with investors to deal with the questions of supply? It's because, in substance, it matters because it's about actually doing things. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Sheldon, first supplementary?