Senator WHITTEN (Western Australia) (14:43): Minister, despite the government promising to cut immigration, the latest Border Force data shows that, after excluding tourists and crew visas, there are 2½ million temporary visa holders in the country on top of permanent visa holders. The latest available data says there could be 1.2 million permanent visas on issue. How many people in Australia right now are not Australian citizens, and how many more or fewer than 3.7 million people is it?