Senator DAVID POCOCK (Australian Capital Territory) (14:34): President, with respect, surely ministers can address some tangents but actually get to some sort of answer within the time. Minister, you talk about the JSCEM review having done the work. One of the things that JSCEM recommended was more territory senators—from two to four. Given JSCEM has recommended that, why are you picking this other stuff that doesn't need a Senate inquiry, but Territorians can wait? What's going on here?