Senator FARRELL (South Australia—Minister for Trade and Tourism, Special Minister of State and Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:32): I thank Senator Pocock for his question. Isn't it interesting, the line-up of people opposing this legislation? There's Clive Palmer, there's Senator Pocock and there's Senator Waters. What a combination of people opposing this legislation. Now, can I say to you, Senator Pocock, that I know you were able to spend $2.1 million at the last election. But, with all these fine people up here in the military, one day, some of them might be— Senator David Pocock: A point of order: he is misleading the Senate. That's not how much I spent. The PRESIDENT: That's a debating point. Minister Farrell, please continue. Senator FARRELL: I'd be happy to get you to clarify: if it wasn't $2.1 million, what was it? But to all of these people up here: the cap that we're proposing to introduce for a lower House election is $800,000. That must be enough money to get your message across. Think about this: you'll be subject to that $800,000 but so will your competition. Senator David Pocock: On a point of order: my question was about why this isn't going to a Senate inquiry. Senator Lambie interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Lambie, come to order! You began your question by referencing the 400-page electoral reform report. The minister is entitled to respond to the whole of your question. Senator FARRELL: I know Senator Lambie here, originally, was a United Australia Party candidate and a beneficiary of the great generosity of Clive Palmer. But these people up here, one of these days some of them are going to want to participate in the electoral process. I say to them: we're introducing a cap of $20,000 on donations. How many of you could afford to put your hand in your pocket and hand over to Mr Pocock, who you may wish to support, a $20,000 donation? These are reasonable limits. I believe they are limits that will survive a High Court challenge. Senator Lambie interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator FARRELL: It has taken longer than I would have liked. But we can't waste a day, because the important changes— (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Pocock, second supplementary?