Senator WATT (Queensland—Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations) (14:54): I can, Senator Grogan. Under our government, we're helping more tradies get the qualifications they need to build more homes and we're helping them get those qualifications for free. Senator Henderson interjecting— Senator WATT: Senator Henderson scoffs. Was that a scoff or a sneer? I'm not quite sure what that was. A government senator: It was a sneer. Senator WATT: It was a sneer, wasn't it? It was a sneer at the idea that we would help people get into construction trades through free TAFE courses. More than 35,000 Australians are doing free construction courses through our free TAFE policy in the program's first 18 months. Last week our government made announcements with the Western Australian and South Australian governments that will make more free TAFE places available in construction and housing courses—because, if we want to build more homes, we need more boots on the ground. Unlike an arrogant Peter Dutton, we won't sneer at young Australians seeking— The PRESIDENT: Senator Watt, you need to (1) refer to those in the other place by their correct titles and (2) withdraw the comment. Senator WATT: I withdraw. Under an arrogant Mr Dutton—was that it? The PRESIDENT: You are reflecting on his character. Senator WATT: Okay. We won't sneer at young Australians seeking a qualification in construction and call it wasteful spending. We will deliver that support to people who need it. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Grogan, a second supplementary?