Senator McALLISTER (New South Wales—Minister for Emergency Management and Minister for Cities) (14:22): The senator asks about the approach that this government takes to environment protection. The senator, in fact, already knows the answer to this question, which is that the Australian government has embarked on a program of law reform to improve the laws which govern the way that environment issues are managed in this country. In fact, we did that on the basis of a report that was commissioned by the previous government and delivered by Professor Samuel, who recommended wide-ranging changes to Australia's environment laws. At this point in time, the second tranche of legislation to implement those policy reforms is before this chamber. In fact, it is open to the Greens to vote for that legislation—to vote for legislation that would put a tough cop on the beat and increase penalties. It is surprising to me that the Greens political party continue to insist that they do not intend to vote for this legislation at all and that, despite going to the electorate and saying that you're the people who want to see reform, you're indicating that you don't want to see Environment Protection Australia, a new national authority, established. Senator McKim: Are you going to mention forests—you know, the f-word? The PRESIDENT: Senator McKim! Senator McALLISTER: Senator McKim interjects, and he asks about the approach to native forestry. What I indicated to you earlier in my comments, Senator, is that the program of reform that the government's embarked upon is comprehensive and, as part of that reform, we've publicly indicated—we have made it very clear—that native forest logging will be regulated by national environment laws for the first time ever through a national environment standard. The question for you is whether you're in the cart for this reform or not. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Hanson-Young, first supplementary?