Senator McCARTHY (Northern Territory—Minister for Indigenous Australians) (14:43): I just want to clarify: this is the electricity bill that the opposition voted against, giving support and relief in terms of the subsidies? The PRESIDENT: Minister, please resume to your seat. Senator McKenzie. Senator McKenzie: I'm just seeking the opportunity to clarify for the minister what I was talking about. The PRESIDENT: No, Senator McKenzie. You've asked your question. Senator Cash interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Order! Senator Cash, I've called and called you. Come to order or leave the chamber. Senator Ayres interjecting— Senator Colbeck interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Ayres! Senator Colbeck, equally, I've called your name a number of times. If you can't stop yourself interjecting—and it is your responsibility, not mine—then please leave the chamber. Minister McCarthy. Senator McCARTHY: Just confirming, this was the energy relief that the opposition said 'no' to in the Senate to try to relieve the cost-of-living pressure— Senator McKenzie: Point of order under standing order 191, 'explanation', where, if what I've said has been misunderstood, I am able to be afforded the opportunity to explain—the $275 was never a piece of legislation before this. We didn't have the opportunity to back that promise— The PRESIDENT: Senator McKenzie, we're not getting into statements. Senator McKenzie interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator McKenzie, resume your seat. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator McKenzie—order across the chamber!—you were given the opportunity to make a point of order. I listened to your point of order. I've said in this chamber, over and over again, when you make the point of order you don't then make a political statement. Senator McKenzie interjecting— The PRESIDENT: I think we're very clear that the minister is using it as a rhetorical device, but I will continue to listen carefully to her answer. Minister McCarthy. Senator McCARTHY: Thank you, Senator, for the question. There is nothing that the opposition won't seek to politicise. When they left office, the average wholesale energy price was 286 megawatts per hour. Just like we inherited a 6.1 per cent inflation rate, the coalition will not take responsibility for the messes that they left. Opposition senators interjecting— Senator McCARTHY: Now we hear them, even though they voted against the opportunity for Australians to have cheaper energy across Australia, they voted against cheaper bills, and that is all they have to say. The PRESIDENT: Senator McKenzie?