Senator McALLISTER (New South Wales—Minister for Emergency Management and Minister for Cities) (14:35): Well, the one thing I can say is that we will take advice from the experts about the optimal investment that's necessary to build out the national electricity market. It's a different approach to the one taken by those opposite, because right now we have a coalition government whose plan is to invest taxpayers' money in the most expensive form— The PRESIDENT: Minister, please resume your seat. Senator McKenzie: You can't tell us how expensive yours will be! The PRESIDENT: I'm waiting, Senator McKenzie! Senator Roberts. Senator Roberts: It's a point of order on relevance. I didn't ask about the coalition government, as you said. I asked about the Labor government now. The PRESIDENT: I will draw the minister to your question, Senator Roberts. And, while I have the attention of the chamber, I will ask senators, particularly those on my left, to listen in respectful silence. Minister McAllister. Senator Thorpe: You lefties need to listen! The PRESIDENT: Senator Thorpe, that includes you! Order! Minister, please continue. Senator McALLISTER: Thanks very much, President. The senator asked about our plans. The Capacity Investment Scheme will deliver 32 gigawatts of renewable and clean dispatchable capacity to fill emerging reliability gaps. The truth is that will put downward pressure on prices, because one of the consequences of the failed policies of those opposite is that we do have capacity capabilities that need to be filled because energy capacity is leaving the market and it has not been replaced. We are taking steps necessary to replace it. (Time expired)