Senator HUME (Victoria) (14:11): My question is for the Minister representing the Treasurer, Senator Gallagher. Minister, you consistently claim that the economy would be in recession if it were not for Labor's spending. Given your willingness to make such forecasts, would inflation and interest rates be lower if not for Labor's spending? Senator Gallagher: I just missed the end of the question. Sorry; I didn't hear it. The PRESIDENT: Thank you. I'll ask— Senator Cash interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Cash. I believe that I'm running the Senate and not you. Senator Hume, please just repeat the last part. Senator HUME: Minister, you consistently claim that the economy would be in recession if it were not for Labor's spending. Given your willingness to make such forecasts, would inflation and interest rates be lower if not for Labor's spending?