Senator McALLISTER (New South Wales—Minister for Emergency Management and Minister for Cities) (14:33): Thank you, Senator Nampijinpa Price, for the question. As you are aware, we've talked about this issue in this chamber for a number of weeks now in response to questions asked by people opposite. As I've made clear repeatedly, on this side of the chamber we apply the law, and there are a range of reasons why it should be obvious to those opposite that that is an important principle. In a decent society, the law is not an instrument to be weaponised, and we know what happens when governments don't apply the law—when governments take a different approach. We know what that looks like. We've seen it. It looks like robodebt. It looks like resources allocated on the basis of colour coded spreadsheets. It looks like car parks and sports rorts all over again. Working outside the law is a dangerous way to operate. It is a recipe for uncertainty and it's designed— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Minister, please resume your seat. Order across the chamber! Minister, please continue. Senator McALLISTER: It's a dangerous way to operate and it's a recipe for uncertainty that will scare off investment— The PRESIDENT: Minister, please resume your seat. Senator Nampijinpa Price? Senator Nampijinpa Price: President, it's just a point of order on direct relevance to the question. The minister appears to be veering away from answering the question. The PRESIDENT: I believe the minister is being relevant to the question but I will continue to listen closely to the answer. Senator McALLISTER: Thank you, President. As I was indicating, the approach that we take in this and all other decisions is to apply the law, and the minister has been very clear about that. Now, doubtless, that will excite strong views. There will always be people in communities who seek to see projects go ahead and there will always be people in communities who oppose projects for a variety of reasons, and we're always interested in the opinions of all stakeholders. Indeed, it is why, in considering the particular project that your question refers to, Senator, the minister took advice from a range of organisations, and the advice I have was that— (Time expired)