Senator PAYMAN (Western Australia) (14:45): But that roughly equates to $25 million a year. In comparison, upgrading the fencing for a farm costs about $2 million. In the grand scheme of things, more needs to be done. My second supplementary question— Senator McKenzie interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator McKenzie, you are out of line. You completely drowned out the senator who has got the legitimate right to ask the question. You completely drowned her out. Please reset the clock. Senator Payman, please begin your question again. Senator PAYMAN: Thank you. Will the minister for agriculture meet with WA sheep farmers when cabinet visits WA in September?