Senator MCCARTHY (Northern Territory—Minister for Indigenous Australians) (14:42): I thank Senator Payman for her question. Certainly, ending live sheep export by sea marks a considerable step forward for animal welfare, and capitalises on onshore opportunities in sheepmeat processing. Senator Payman— Honourable senators interjecting— Senator MCCARTHY: Obviously the other side are not interested to know. They obviously don't care about the farmers in Western Australia. We are supporting— Senator Davey: Oh, you know that's not true. Senator Cash: Why do you hate the farmers? The PRESIDENT: Minister, please resume your seat. Order! Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! I remind the opposition there is plenty of opportunity for you to ask similar questions. This question has been asked by Senator Payman. Senator McKenzie: Maybe Minister Collins will have the guts. The PRESIDENT: Senator McKenzie particularly. Senator Brockman interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Brockman. Senator Ayres: We want the silence of the lambs over there! The PRESIDENT: Senator Ayres. Order! Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Order across the chamber. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! I should not have had to stand up. I called order at least seven times. I remind the opposition there is plenty of opportunity for you to ask similar questions. This question is being asked by a senator who has limited opportunity to ask questions during the week, and I ask every senator in here to listen in respectful silence. Please continue, Senator McCarthy. Senator MCCARTHY: Thank you, President. Senator Payman, we've obviously now legislated that trade will end on 1 May 2028. The $107 million transition support package, which you are asking about—and I know you're interested to know—will provide the opportunity for individuals, communities and businesses to be resilient, well-positioned and ready when the trade ends. We're certainly working with the WA government to rollout that support, and the transition plan includes implementation based on independent advice; the provision of certainty, time and support for the transition; ongoing management of, and measures to, enhance sheep welfare; and transition oversight and continued engagement with domestic stakeholders and trading partners. With this certainty and a four-year lead time, affected producers can make decisions appropriate to their circumstances. The PRESIDENT: Senator Payman, a first supplementary?