Senator MCCARTHY (Northern Territory—Minister for Indigenous Australians) (14:35): Thank you, Senator Roberts. Can I firstly say, in regard to comments around Senator Cox, that Senator Cox is very dedicated to working to improve the lives of First Nations people so I would caution any slur against her work in that space. What I would say, though, Senator Roberts, is that the government has invested more than $110 million in initiatives to support First Nations children, students and organisations. We are committed to strengthening the formal partnership arrangements, in line with the Closing the Gap priority reforms. Senator Roberts, you met with the co-chair of the joint council—and that was Pat Turner—in reaffirming that commitment, and I look forward to working with you and others on that. The PRESIDENT: Senator Roberts. Senator Roberts: The question was one of irrelevance before Senator McCarthy sat down. I asked: how can you assure the Senate— The PRESIDENT: Senator Roberts, firstly, that's a debating point and, secondly, the minister has finished her answer.