Senator GALLAGHER (Australian Capital Territory—Minister for the Public Service, Minister for Finance, Minister for Women, Manager of Government Business in the Senate and Vice-President of the Executive Council) (15:00): The foundational supports program, which we are talking to the states about, is about ensuring that there are programs that sit outside the NDIS— The PRESIDENT: Minister Gallagher, please resume your seat. Senator Ayres. Senator Ayres: President, I think it would assist the chamber if you were able to advise the people who have come to the parliament who are in the gallery that babies are welcome in this parliament. Whether your babies make a little bit of noise or not, you are very, very welcome. I think it would assist members in the gallery if you were able to do that. The PRESIDENT: As I understand it, one of the security staff misunderstood the rules. I'm sure that the security officer has been told that babies are welcome on the floor of the chamber and in the gallery. Honourable senators: Hear, hear! The PRESIDENT: Minister Gallagher, please continue your answer. Senator GALLAGHER: On the issue of foundation supports, we are looking to work with the states and territories to set up some foundation supports. Do you know why? Because we want to make sure that people who don't get in through the NDIS have some services, like the ones that used to exist. There used to be services that sat outside the NDIS—more high-level support, like therapy centres and early intervention centres, which no longer exist because those services were withdrawn when the NDIS came into being. That has left a gap. So we are working with the states and territories on that. We will continue to do so, we've put some money in the budget to establish that and we'll continue to work with states and territories on it. But it's actually about providing more options for support for children, in particular, with a disability to make sure that they get the best chance they can at the earliest opportunity. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Tyrrell, second supplementary?