Senator WATT (Queensland—Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry and Minister for Emergency Management) (14:10): Thank you, Senator Sheldon. As you very well know, the Albanese government's No. 1 focus is easing the cost-of-living pressures for all Australians. Combined with wage growth and our investment in reliable renewable energy, only the Albanese Labor government is delivering the cost-of-living relief that Australians need. Mr Dutton and the coalition want Australians to pay more for their risky nuclear reactors and pay more for their power, but they can't even get their lines straight. Will there be a cap on renewables or not? Senator Birmingham, or 'Solar Simon', as we like to call him, doesn't think so. He doesn't think there will be a cap on renewables. The PRESIDENT: Minister Watt, withdraw that, thank you. Senator WATT: I withdraw. I didn't realise it was offensive to be called 'Solar' on the other side of the chamber, but apparently it is. But Mr Littleproud, the Leader of the National Party, has a different view. He says there should be a cap on renewables. How much will it cost? Well, apparently Australians aren't entitled to know, but Mr Littleproud says he knows. And the member for O'Connor, Mr Rick Wilson, knows the Collie reactor will be $7 billion. The Liberals and the Nationals want people to pay more for their power. They oppose every cost-of-living measure we're delivering to Australians. (Time expired)