Senator GALLAGHER (Australian Capital Territory—Minister for the Public Service, Minister for Finance, Minister for Women, Manager of Government Business in the Senate and Vice-President of the Executive Council) (14:53): Well, well, well—we start as we finish, on costings. Senator Cash: Your costings. Senator GALLAGHER: Yes, don't worry. You can only ask about our costings, because you have none. Honestly! In the week that we've had, your question is about costings of the energy transition—interesting. Our costings— The PRESIDENT: Order! Minister Gallagher, please resume your seat. Senator Hughes? Senator Hughes: We're 25 per cent through the response, and it's a yes or no question. The PRESIDENT: I'm not sure what the point of order was there. Senator Hughes: We're 25 per cent—just on the maths side of things—through the response time, and it's a yes or no question. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Hughes. The minister is being relevant. I will continue to listen carefully. Senator Hughes: No, she's not; she's talking about us. The PRESIDENT: Senator Hughes! I remind you once again that, when you raise a point of order with me, it is not a debate. I've ruled. Whether you agree or not, you don't continue in a debate with me. Senator GALLAGHER: On the cost issue, we look forward to the costs when they come, when you've worked out your big announcement—the big announcement that Mr Dutton accidentally made in a newspaper interview. We heard about it. We read about it. Where did that 2030 target go? Whoops! Oh, it's just gone! And now we know Senator Canavan is going to get rid of the 2050 target. Senator Hughes: Point of order on relevance. We're now 50 per cent through the answer. The question was very clearly asking if their plan includes the cost of decommissioning. It's a yes or a no, and we've gone nowhere near it. The PRESIDENT: Senator Hughes, please resume your seat. I will draw the minister back to the question, but, when you rise on a point of order, there is no need to repeat the question. Senator GALLAGHER: As I said in an answer earlier in the week, we have a budgeted plan that's backed by the AEMO Integrated System Plan, which looked at the total cost out to 2050 of the generation, storage and transmission of renewable energy, and the figure that's being applied to that by AEMO under the release of the new ISP today is $122 billion. In this budget we are investing an extra $22.5 billion over the next decade to help make Australia a renewable energy superpower, including $3.2 billion for ARENA, $1.7 billion for the Future Made in Australia Innovation Fund, $6.7 billion for hydrogen production tax credits and $1.3 billion for Hydrogen Headstart, building on the $2 billion from our last budget. The capacity investment scheme— (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Hughes, first supplementary?