Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:37): I have to say, for a senior member of the coalition— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator WONG: I think it's interesting that Senator Cash says that calling her a senior member of the coalition is demeaning. I didn't think that was, but I'll leave that to her. To use something as important as AUKUS, which has— Senator Cash interjecting— Senator WONG: May I finish? You asked the question, Senator Cash. To ask a question on a policy which was introduced by your government, which has bipartisan support, which goes to the national security and strategic circumstances of this nation, in order to try and utilise it in a domestic debate to cover up the shambles of a policy you have announced is really not befitting of a party that's serious about national security. It's not befitting. You and I both know— The PRESIDENT: Minister Wong, please resume your seat. Senator Cash? Senator Cash: President, the point of order is in relation to relevance. Whilst I know the Leader of the Government in the Senate likes to indulge in the odd personal attack, that was not what the question was. It was in relation to making sure Australians understand the government's position in relation to whether the eight nuclear powered submarines are actually safe for those working on them. The PRESIDENT: I believe the minister is being relevant and I will continue to listen carefully. Senator WONG: I have to say that the quip about personal attacks, from a senior member of Peter Dutton's team, after the weekend—I don't know if that was an attempt at humour, but we thought it was quite amusing! Senator, you would be aware that, when the AUKUS position was announced, your then Prime Minister—and I'm not sure if you were in the National Security Committee at the time, but certainly the decision of your National Security Committee— An honourable senator interjecting— Senator WONG: No. I just can't recall whether she was. Your Prime Minister, Prime Minister Morrison, announced the position of your government, which was that AUKUS would not involve the establishment of a civil nuclear industry. We very carefully went through the reasons for that. I look forward to— (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Cash, a first supplementary question?