Senator GALLAGHER (Australian Capital Territory—Minister for the Public Service, Minister for Finance, Minister for Women, Manager of Government Business in the Senate and Vice-President of the Executive Council) (15:05): There is no evidence to suggest that the new vehicle efficiency standard will increase vehicle prices. In jurisdictions that have had that standard in place for some time, sometimes for up to 50 years—and I know the National Party like to go back in time, but it's like they want to go back beyond 50 years—real-world evidence has not shown an increase in price for consumers. What we are trying to do here is make sure that we have more fuel-efficient vehicles—tick!—make sure there's choice for consumers— The PRESIDENT: Minister Gallagher. Senator GALLAGHER: and make sure the costs of operating a car are lowered. Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Minister Gallagher, please resume your seat. I'm going to wait for silence, Senator Canavan, and then I'll come to you. Senator Canavan. Senator Canavan: Thank you, Madam President. A point of order on relevance: this question was specifically about releasing the modelling, which is subject to an order for the production of documents from this chamber. I'd just ask that the minister be brought to the question about why they're refusing and ignoring that order for the production of documents. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Canavan. Your question also went to driving up costs. That was the opening statement to your question. I believe the minister is being relevant and I will continue to listen. Senator GALLAGHER: We have released an impact statement, 80 pages, which I'm sure you've pored over. I would go back to what Mr Fletcher said: 'There wasn't a material change in price and we don't expect that there would be a material change in price here.' I would remind those opposite that when they were in government—before you nobbled it, probably at a National Party meeting—they proposed much tighter targets for 2025 than under our proposal. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Canavan, second supplementary?