Senator FARRELL (South Australia—Minister for Trade and Tourism, Special Minister of State and Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:42): I don't accept the fundamental proposition of that question. We understand—this government understands—and Minister Madeleine King understands better than anyone just how important the reliability of gas is going to be in the transition to net zero. That's why we've had to implement so many policies to make up for the inaction of the former government. And, let me tell you, Senator McDonald, in Madeleine King we have a safe pair of hands. She understands the issues, she understands why it's so important to make that transition and she is going to be delivering for Australians.