Senator FARRELL (South Australia—Minister for Trade and Tourism, Special Minister of State and Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:07): Again, I repeat that the senator seems somewhat obsessed with this issue. We need, in these troubling times, a whole lot of close allies. Of course, the United States is there. Which government forged the alliance between the United States and Australia? It was the Curtin government. Who has progressed the AUKUS— Opposition senators interjecting — The PRESIDENT: Minister Farrell, please resume your seat. I can barely hear the minister because of the loud interjections. Thank you, Senator Cash. I'm calling the Senate to order over the loud interjections from my left. Senator FARRELL: I'm pointing out, Senator Birmingham, that you've picked one country in the Five Eyes, but, of course, the Five Eyes consists of the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. We need all of these countries— (Time expired)