Senator WATT (Queensland—Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry and Minister for Emergency Management) (15:12): Thank you, Senator Roberts, for that question. I will have to take on notice the exact details of that question that you've asked. Presumably, these are matters that you'd also have the opportunity to ask the ABC at estimates next week. So I am happy to come back to you with any details that I can provide on that. The broader issue around any defamation action taken against the ABC is really a matter for ABC management. Of course, this government believes in the independence of the ABC and, in particular, its editorial independence. Senator Rennick: You mean the bias. Senator WATT: Senator Rennick, on the other hand, thinks that it's a biased organisation. That's a very disappointing remark to make about the national broadcaster but perhaps one that we're used to after years of ABC cuts under the former government. It would appear that Senator Rennick isn't the only member of the opposition who regards the ABC as biased. Again, it's a very disappointing view to express about the national broadcaster—the only publicly funded broadcaster. Again, it probably indicates why the ABC suffered such severe funding cuts under the former government. So, Senator Roberts, you'll obviously have the opportunity to ask those questions of ABC management at estimates next week. I know Senator Henderson always has questions for the ABC as well, so she will no doubt do that again next week. Senator Ruston interjecting— Senator WATT: Sorry, Senator Ruston, we get to answer the questions, and I've already— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order, across the chamber! Minister Watt, please refer to me when you're answering the question. Senator Henderson? Senator Henderson: On indulgence— The PRESIDENT: No, Senator Henderson. Resume your seat. Minister, please continue, or have you finished your answer? Senator WATT: I actually answered the question in the first five seconds by saying that I'd take those details on notice. But I'm obviously able to then comment on the question more broadly, and that's what I've spent one minute and 55 seconds doing. The PRESIDENT: Senator Roberts, a first supplementary question?