Senator WATT (Queensland—Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry and Minister for Emergency Management) (14:45): You do know it is Thursday question time when Senator McKenzie, of all people, wants to talk about transparency in government. Have you still got those spreadsheets? Are they still coloured? I mean, seriously, we're going to take lectures from Senator McKenzie or anyone over on that side of the chamber about transparency? Senator Cash has a lot to say now. Of course, Senator Cash was the Attorney-General who didn't introduce a national anticorruption commission. That is how committed Senator Cash was to transparency. Senator Cash of course refused to co-operate with a police investigation. That is how committed she was to transparency in office and they now want to lecture us. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Order across the chamber. I have a senator on her feet. Senator Cash: Not going for the person, Murray! The PRESIDENT: Senator Cash! When I call order across the chamber it also applies to you. Senator McKenzie, on a point of order? Senator McKenzie: Minister Watt is reflecting on other senators in this chamber. He has been called to account several times previously not just by yourself but by other presidents. It is absolutely against standing orders, this continual behaviour. When he feels under attack, he makes it personal every time. The PRESIDENT: I don't believe Minister Watt was using inappropriate language but I will seek the advice of Clerk. Minister Wong? Senator Wong: I have a submission on the point of order. I think there is a distinction between a personal attack and a criticism that goes to someone's behaviour as a public official. The latter is not a personal attack, no matter what others may say. The PRESIDENT: The Clerk has confirmed my understanding. I don't think, and I am also advised by the Clerk, that the language breached the standards but I will continue to listen closely because I am well aware of the rulings I have made in the past—thank you, Senator McKenzie. Minister Watt. Senator WATT: I'm not sure why it is that Senator McKenzie and others think it is appropriate to accuse various Labor ministers of lacking integrity and lacking transparency yet when their own record is pointed out it seems to be against the rules. It is a double standard that seems to apply on these matters. As I say, this government has delivered on transparency. We have introduced a national anticorruption commission. Senator Farrell is doing work on electoral donations. There are any number of examples we could give. Unfortunately, Senator McKenzie is never happy. (Time expired)