Senator GALLAGHER (Australian Capital Territory—Minister for the Public Service, Minister for Finance, Minister for Women, Manager of Government Business in the Senate and Vice-President of the Executive Council) (14:41): We all see, with eyes wide open, what is going on here in this chamber. We all see. You will have to live with yourselves about your conduct and how you decide to play it— Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on my left! Senator GALLAGHER: I can say, as Minister for Finance, one of the things that worries me greatly is the expenditure that's currently going to deliver outcomes that none of us in this place would want to see continue. We spend billions and billions of dollars every year, year on year, on programs that have not shifted the dial and have not closed the gap. As Minister for Finance, I have a responsibility to taxpayers to ensure that the money being spent is delivering outcomes. That is why we are supporting a Voice through the 'yes' vote, when it comes—because we want to see a practical difference and see those outcomes change. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Liddle, second supplementary?