Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:33): I've asked about what Ms Savage said, and I have a quote from her, from March of this year: We have seen unprecedented volatility in our wholesale electricity markets over the last couple of years, we've had very high coal and gas prices as a result of the war in Ukraine and the recovery from the pandemic. We've also seen a number of outages in particularly old coal plants. She's making the point that there are a number of reasons that electricity prices are being driven up. The reality is, all of the advice to government and the data from the market as well, so not only— Senator Ruston interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Ruston, your constant interjections are incredibly disorderly and disrespectful. Minister Wong, please continue. Senator WONG: The advice to government, very clearly, is that renewables are the cheapest form of new installed power. I would also make this point. I've looked at the electricity prices across the states, and I have to say I don't necessarily agree with the premise of your primary question. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Hanson, second supplementary?