Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:03): I again make the point that this is a change that affects 0.5 per cent of people and it will not take place until after the next election in 2025. I would also make the point that those opposite, and I will take the interjections— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Minister Wong, please resume your seat. Order! Minister, please continue. Senator WONG: I'm always happy for Senator Gallagher to take questions. She answers them brilliantly. She answers them brilliantly, as she demonstrated yesterday. I would also make the point that those opposite have really demonstrated to Australians whose side they're on. They're not on the side of people doing it tough; they're not on the side of poor people on minimum wages; they're not on the side of households who are finding it hard to make their electricity prices, voting against the packages they wanted; they're not on the side of people who need skills; they're not on the side of manufacturing jobs— (Time expired) The P RESIDENT: Senator Birmingham, a second supplementary question?