Senator FARRELL (South Australia—Minister for Trade and Tourism, Special Minister of State and Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:40): I doubt whether Optus is running that argument today, but can I say this. The Attorney-General and the Attorney-General's Department have engaged extensively with experts, community organisations, businesses and privacy advocates on his proposed privacy act. The department so far—and I'm happy to provide these to you—has provided two consultation papers, has received 434 submissions and has held a series of round tables. So, I don't think— The PRESIDENT: Senator Henderson, a point of order? Senator Henderson: On relevance, it was a very specific question that I asked: does the government agree that telecommunications companies should be exempt from tougher online privacy laws? The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Henderson. I do believe that the minister is being relevant. Senator FARRELL: I started out my answer by saying that I doubt very much whether Optus is now pursuing that particular argument. Well, I've explained to you all the things the Attorney-General is doing in order to consult with all the relevant organisations. (Time expired)