Senator FARRELL (South Australia—Minister for Trade and Tourism, Special Minister of State and Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:18): I thank the senator for the question. I will preface my comments by saying that Minister King has been doing a terrific job in this space since she came into the portfolio—a very fine job. The Albanese— An honourable senator: Do you have an answer? Senator FARRELL: With respect, Senator, if you'd let me finish my answer— Government senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator FARRELL: As distinct from the now opposition, the Albanese government went to the last election with a commitment that we would introduce— The PRESIDENT: Minister, please resume your seat. Senator Cox. Senator Cox: The question was quite direct: what formula did the minister apply in her decision-making in this recent announcement about oceans? The PRESIDENT: Are you raising a point of order? Senator Cox: On relevance, yes. The PRESIDENT: Minister, I draw your attention back to the question put by Senator Cox. Senator FARRELL: Thank you. The Albanese government went to the last election with a commitment to reduce emissions by 43 per cent by 2030, and that's what we're going to do. That's the commitment we made to the Australian people. That's the commitment we will deliver on, and in a short space of time you're going to get a chance to vote on that very commitment. In the meantime, we need to transition from the current position that we find ourselves in to that 43 per cent reduction, and the way in which we're going to do that— (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Cox, first supplementary. Order!