Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:19): Thank you, Senator Thorpe, for the question. I think the government have made clear that we will look to implement in full the Uluru Statement from the Heart, which, as you know, goes to voice, treaty and truth. I understand that you personally have a different view about the order of those achievements or those objectives. From our perspective, given the level of consultation with First Nations' communities that grounded the Uluru Statement from the Heart, we are proceeding respectfully in accordance with that statement. I would make this point, and it picks up really what Senator Price asked my colleague Senator Gallagher: I appreciate that this is a big change for many people. And I appreciate that there are those who wish to ask questions of detail. Sometimes, even if those questions are answered, they will not change their position. I respect that, but— Senator Thorpe: I have a point of order on relevance. My question was: how does going into the Constitution affect First People's sovereignty in this country? That's all. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Thorpe. I believe the minister is being relevant. Minister Wong, please continue. Senator WONG: As I understand, what has been put to us by the representatives of First Nations peoples, as outlined in the Uluru Statement from the Heart, is that they are seeking that we respond first to the voice before moving to treaty and truth. I would make the point that the enshrinement of a voice is symbolic, but it is also pragmatic. It's symbolic because it will include Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples in the founding document of our country. It is pragmatic given that there is no systematic process for First Nations peoples to provide advice to the parliament. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Thorpe, first supplementary?