Senator PAYNE (New South Wales—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Minister for Women) (15:06): I thank Senator Keneally for her question. I don't have that budget paper with me, but I will note that this government—and I will take that on notice therefore—invests over $11.5 billion each year to support 336,000 veterans and their families. I am seeking to respond to what I regarded as perhaps, mistakenly, a serious question from those opposite. If it is not possible to respond to that question by indicating that I will take it on notice, return to the chamber and provide Senator Keneally with further information, then I'll decline to answer the question any further. The PRESIDENT: Senator Keneally, a supplementary question?