Senator CASH (Western Australia—Attorney-General, Minister for Industrial Relations and Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate) (15:03): I think it's pretty obvious to us on this side of the chamber what the greatest risk to small and family business is, and that is of course an Albanese Labor government. Why? It's because the closest most of them have ever come to a small business is to proudly close it down. That is unacceptable behaviour. When it comes to taxes, there's only one way that those on the other side go, and that is up. It is in their DNA. On this side, we know that the best thing you can do for small businesses is to lower their taxes. That is why, under the coalition government, they are paying the lowest tax rate in 50 years. Then you look at the alternative Prime Minister— Government senators int erjecting — The PRESIDENT: Before I come to you, Senator Patrick, I will say to those on my right that that was getting excessive in terms of the noise. Senator Patrick: On a point of order: I couldn't hear any of the minister's answer. The PRESIDENT: I was struggling myself, Senator Patrick, and that's something to say when it's Senator Cash on her feet. Senator Cash, you have 16 seconds. Senator CASH: As I said, when it comes to lowering taxes that is in the DNA of the coalition government. We lower taxes; you raise taxes. We look at small business and we say, 'You deserve more of what you earn, and we will give it back.' You, on the other hand— The PRESIDENT: Sorry, we had a little error there with the timing. Senator Cash: Do I get more? The PRESIDENT: No, sadly, Minister Cash, your time had actually expired.