Senator McKENZIE (Victoria—Minister for Emergency Management and National Recovery and Resilience, Minister for Regionalisation, Regional Communications and Regional Education and Leader of The Nationals in the Senate) (14:31): Thank you, Senator Wong, for your question. I've written a couple of pieces which outline my views on this matter, going back several months. I am not an MP who has come to this place ever denying the science of climate change. But nor am I a member of parliament who has ever signed up to policies that will decimate jobs in rural and regional Australia. Over the time I've been in this place, there have been a number of debates in this place, and my political party has stood up for rural and regional Australians and for jobs in our communities. We will continue to do that. I've made it very clear in my personal public commentary that I will not be signing up to any policy that is not right for rural and regional Australia—not just to get us through the next election, but to get us through the next three decades. It is very easy for those who don't live in the communities that we live in and represent the communities that we represent to take a different approach. It's very similar to Senator Canavan, who lives in a community that is based around coalmining. But, when you look at Anthony Albanese's perspective on coalmining—he lives nowhere near it: 'I don't think there's a place for new coal-fired power plants in Australia, full stop.' The PRESIDENT: Minister, resume your seat. Senator Wong, I would point out there is only six seconds left. I'm happy to take the point of order. Senator Wong: That doesn't prevent a point of order, Mr President. The PRESIDENT: I know. I'm happy to take the point of order. I was just pointing it out. Senator Wong: Thank you, yes: direct relevance. It was demonstrably not directly relevant. The PRESIDENT: The minister was clearly being directly relevant in the first part of her answer. I agree that, towards the end, she strayed from direct relevance. However, the minister was being directly relevant through the answer to the question. You have six seconds, Senator McKenzie. Do you wish to continue? Alright. Senator Wong, a supplementary question?