Senator RUSTON (South Australia—Minister for Families and Social Services, Minister for Women's Safety and Manager of Government Business in the Senate) (15:01): Overwhelmingly, we heard that people were really excited about the fact that they can use their cashless debit card when they travel, whether it be to Cairns, to Sydney, to Adelaide, to Perth or anywhere else. But the other issue they raised a number of times was the misinformation that is out there. The opposition are running an absolutely shameful scare campaign aimed at age pensioners. They are lying to them. Let me be absolutely crystal clear. The government has no plan to force age pensioners on to the cashless debit card, and we will never have such a plan. Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on my left! There are too many names to call out. Senator RUSTON: The cashless debit card is for working-age payments to help people stabilise their lives, become job ready and get back into the workforce. Those opposite must cease telling Australians lies. They must tell the truth, which is something that they are not doing at the moment. Senator Birmingham: Mr President, much as it's nice to watch Senator Ruston call out the lies of those opposite, I ask that further questions be placed on notice. The PRESIDENT: I'm going to ask you to withdraw that word, because it did refer to specific people. Senator Birmingham: I withdraw. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Birmingham. Senator Birmingham: Mr President, I ask that further questions be placed on the Notice Paper.