Senator O'SULLIVAN (Western Australia) (14:59): Can the minister please explain how the cashless debit card is providing income management participants with more choice and freedom? Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: I'll call the minister to answer when I'll be able to hear her. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Is there any ability to restrain oneself on the left of the chamber at the moment? Senator Rennick, please, as well. Senator Watt! Senator Ayres!