Senator REYNOLDS (Western Australia—Minister for the National Disability Insurance Scheme and Minister for Government Services) (14:56): Again, thank you, Senator Askew. Since becoming the minister for the NDIS just over a month ago, I have been extensively consulting with the disability sector: with participants, providers, those with lived experience and, of course, my state and territory counterparts, and including a number of people in this chamber—and I thank you very much for that support. I've made it clear I'll consult on the proposed reforms, wait for the conclusion of the independent assessment trial and discuss the way forward in late July with my state and territory counterparts, who, unlike those opposite, have been incredibly supportive and bipartisan in their approach to the future of this scheme. We have a window of opportunity now to introduce important reforms and to work collaboratively, not only together but also with the disability sector, so that we can make sure the NDIS endures. I'll finish, if I've got time—very quickly—on Julia Gillard back in 2011. The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Reynolds. Time for the answer— Senator REYNOLDS: I'll leave that for next time. Thank you, Mr President. The PRESIDENT: has expired.