Senator REYNOLDS (Western Australia—Minister for the National Disability Insurance Scheme and Minister for Government Services) (14:15): I thank the senator for that question. That is a very tragic case, and I have been in contact with Liam's father, who I will be meeting at his convenience. I am still seeking further information on his case. It is complex. The trustee is also involved. So I'm in the process of getting further information. In the first instance I can discuss the matter with his father and then provide more information, as it is appropriate to do in individual cases. The PRESIDENT: Senator Kitching, a supplementary question?