Senator BIRMINGHAM (South Australia—Minister for Finance, Vice-President of the Executive Council and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:30): I'm assuming the prompting of these questions relates to some media reporting that I've seen today about FOIs that were released by the Treasury. I think it's important, given some of the selective quoting of those FOIs, to make clear that they also say very clearly— The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Birmingham. Senator Wong on a point of order? Senator Wong: On direct relevance, Mr President. It can't be directly relevant to refer to quotes which were not contained in the question. We simply asked the minister to guarantee that no worker has lost or will lose their job. The PRESIDENT: I'm reluctant to make a ruling that quoting from another document can't be relevant to the question. I've allowed you to make the point. I will listen carefully to the minister's answer. Senator BIRMINGHAM: Those FOI documents include the statement from Treasury 'The hiring credit does not create an incentive for an employer to replace an older worker with several new part-time workers.' That's what's implicit in Senator Gallacher's question, and the government rejects that. We built this program with clear additionality criteria in place—in fact, with a double-barrelled additionality test there: firstly, that the business would have to be increasing the headcount of employees and, secondly, that the payroll for the business would also have to increase. Those two criteria are there to make sure that indeed a business has to be taking on new, additional employees, growing the payroll, and, under this program, young employees, to give young Australians an opportunity.