Senator REYNOLDS (Western Australia—Minister for Defence) (14:14): Again, that goes into the matter of private conversations, which I have consistently said remains— The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Reynolds. Senator Wong, on a point of order? Senator Wong: The point of order is relevance. I think we showed some courtesy for how the minister was last week. That does not obviate her obligation to be accountable to this chamber for her conduct. She is being asked a question about whether or not this meeting occurred with the permission or with the knowledge of the complainant. There is no prejudice associated with that. It is a matter on which the Prime Minister has spoken in the House, and I'd ask the minister to respond to the question. The PRESIDENT: I've allowed to you to make the point, Senator Wong. I don't believe that the minister is not being directly relevant, because I think she is addressing the question. There is an opportunity to debate questions after question time. I call Senator Reynolds. Senator REYNOLDS: I will continue, because I had only spoken for seven seconds. As I've consistently said, on that Monday we made available and advised that we would provide and make available the appropriate counselling services, which was done, and also that, if she wanted to talk to the Australian Federal Police, we would facilitate that. At all times and at all times through that process, as I've said in this chamber a number of times, everything that was done was with her knowledge and with her concurrence. From that day right through, it has always been my first and only consideration was her privacy, her agency, and to take my steps— The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Reynolds. Senator Polley, a final supplementary question?