Senator PAYNE (New South Wales—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Minister for Women) (14:29): I thank Senator Roberts for his question. Last week, Australia was able to welcome the return of Dr Kylie Moore-Gilbert to Australia after more than two years in detention in Iran. These are deeply complex and very difficult matters to deal with in any international context and they're even further complicated by the impact of a global pandemic. Australia worked for two years to secure the release of Dr Kylie Moore-Gilbert. A range of diplomatic discussions and exchanges between international partners are held at times such as this to pursue those matters. I will not go into further detail on those issues, but I am very pleased to be able to say to the chamber that it is an enormous relief to have been able to welcome Dr Kylie Moore-Gilbert back to this country last week. We know that Dr Moore-Gilbert was imprisoned in Iran— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Roberts, a point of order? Senator Roberts: Mr President, I asked about the proclaimed position of never negotiating with terrorists. The PRESIDENT: Senator Roberts, you had a preamble and the minister is being directly relevant to the question in addressing that part of the question as well. Senator Payne. Senator PAYNE: Thank you, Mr President. As I said, we never accepted the charges upon which Dr Moore-Gilbert was purported to have been detained and ultimately convicted and sentenced. In that context, we continued our negotiations. We will not go into the nature of diplomatic discussions with other countries. Our role is to protect the rights, freedoms and safety of our citizens in the national interest and that is our absolute focus. We consistently advocate in favour of the international rules based order and we fundamentally oppose coercive diplomacy in any of its forms. The PRESIDENT: Senator Roberts, a supplementary question?