Senator BIRMINGHAM (South Australia—Minister for Finance, Minister for Trade, Tourism and Investment, Vice-President of the Executive Council and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:04): Only the Labor Party could suggest that budgeting $9 billion for the childcare subsidy in 2020-21 was 'nothing'. We are budgeting $9 billion in expenditure to support child care in this financial year alone. This is about $2 billion—from memory—more than was being spent a couple of years ago prior to our reforms. We came along as a government, we introduced reforms to create the childcare subsidy, we increased the rate of spending on child care and that spending has now reached a point where in this financial year we will spend and invest $9 billion to support the hardest working Australian families, to give the greatest support to those earning the least amount of money, and yet those opposite come in here and they pretend that $9 billion is nothing at all! It's certainly not nothing at all! The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Birmingham! Senator Keneally on a point of order. Senator Keneally: My point of order is on relevance. The minister is almost through with his answer and we're yet to hear about the $15 million comeback advertising campaign that the question asked about. The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Keneally! That was a very open-ended question. The minister is being directly relevant. Senator Birmingham, you have five seconds remaining. Senator BIRMINGHAM: Senator Chisholm asked: why are we giving nothing to child care? On this side, we think $9 billion is actually quite a lot of money!